So, can anyone offer me proof their god exists? Real proof, not some scripture written by the supposed God. You cannot logically say God wrote the Bible (indirectly) so it is true, God is real cause it's in the bible. That's like saying x=y because y=x; you haven't proven anything. Show me real proof. And now that I have you ';stooped'; to the level of the real world, you cannot prove your god against science. By the way, this is meant for non-Eastern religions only, because most of the people wouldn't understand Eastern religion is created for an entirely different purpose. But anyways, can you prove your God? Give an actual answer, not just a page number or a condemnation.Show me the money. No, my souls not for sale. All religions/atheists welcome.?
Heh. Good luck. Expect a lot of bull like ';have you ever seen a BABY?!?'; or ';what about a SUNSET!?!';
I'm a Wiccan and I DO believe in gods and goddesses, but I also happily recognize that such things can't be proven and shouldn't be pushed on nice atheists. :)Show me the money. No, my souls not for sale. All religions/atheists welcome.?
if you really believe as you say why do you want me to prove it to you? maybe you want to believe and have just never found any answers that you could wrap your mind around, i'm not condeming you at all, so why are you looking for a fight?
Well, considering all the holy books are are collections of stories explaining how to world came to be the way it is, and that's the definition of a myth......
God (Divinity) is what has put order to the universe. I know that this doesn't necessarily prove or disprove It's existance, but it does open up the question of whether ';Logos'; in Genesis should have been translated as ';Logic'; or perhaps even ';Thought'; instead of ';Word';.
No, it doesn't disprove God, just opens up worlds of other possibilities...
Get a mirror. Look into it. There is your proof.
Bible prophecy=proof.
You say not to use the Bible as a source of our proof. That's like telling a student not to use the text book and what's written in it when answering questions on a test. You also say you have proof against the Bible...the Bible, a book you disavow and the Christians can't use to answer your question. You refer to it but we can't. Now, that's fair! The sunset, a baby, plants animals, life itself DO show God exists. Jesus Himself, came here in human form to verify an answer to your question but they crucified Him. Too bad there were no tape recorders, TV, movie cameras, etc. back then. Maybe by viewing such things people would believe. Maybe they would find fault and disbelieve that too. Question: Without using what is written in a history book, prove to me that Christopher Columbus, Napoleon, Magellan etc. ever existed.
I'm going to use my answer on how Satan came to be for the proof of God, and hope you will understand what I would say if trying to prove God:
God is all-encompassing existence, so everything dwells within in God's Being, but to the divided parts only the allusions appear. Example, Lucifer mean ';light bearer';, while Satan, which is Lucifer cast to earth, means lusting one, obsessed, oppressor etc.
That is, Satan is partial, and has selfish preferences, is lacking, not included, not equal to etc. [which is what sin is in the literal], but God is all-embracing, does not lack, does not love one over another. Even though some are of greater endowments, St. Peter over Stalin for example, but God is inclusive of all degrees, its what holy means, to be whole, complete etc.
Being One, God can't deem one degree as preferred except relative to themselves, because when thought of in God, all are equal, since God is not divided or partial... So Christ is better than us to us, but God loves equally, but Christ is most like God so can partake of that love and what it engenders more ablely than we, so proves Christ is more receptive, and relatively more good, even though there is one good, that is God, for there is only one, and what I Am that I Am engenders, only appears by contrast...
If hell existed it would hold a special place for you. A place with hot tubs, Hooter's girls, and beer :)
Proof? There isn't even the tiniest bit of evidence that any god exists.
offer us proof that He doesn't exist
The re-establishment of Israel as a soverign nation in 1948.
If you were such an expert of ';eastern'; religions you would know this. Judaism is an eastern religion. The only true religion. Which produced the Messiah, Jesus.
I'm proof, you're proof...
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